Skip to content
    Moz logo Menu open Menu close
    • Products
      • Moz Pro
      • Moz Pro Home
      • Moz Local
      • Moz Local Home
      • STAT
      • Moz API
      • Moz API Home
      • Compare SEO Products
      • Moz Data
    • Free SEO Tools
      • Domain Analysis
      • Keyword Explorer
      • Link Explorer
      • Competitive Research
      • MozBar
      • More Free SEO Tools
    • Learn SEO
      • Beginner's Guide to SEO
      • SEO Learning Center
      • Moz Academy
      • SEO Q&A
      • Webinars, Whitepapers, & Guides
    • Blog
    • Why Moz
      • Agency Solutions
      • Enterprise Solutions
      • Small Business Solutions
      • Case Studies
      • The Moz Story
      • New Releases
    • Log in
    • Log out
    • Products
      • Moz Pro

        Your all-in-one suite of SEO essentials.

      • Moz Local

        Raise your local SEO visibility with complete local SEO management.

      • STAT

        SERP tracking and analytics for enterprise SEO experts.

      • Moz API

        Power your SEO with our index of over 44 trillion links.

      • Compare SEO Products

        See which Moz SEO solution best meets your business needs.

      • Moz Data

        Power your SEO strategy & AI models with custom data solutions.

      Save big on Moz Pro!
      Limited time offer

      Save big on Moz Pro!

      See pricing
    • Free SEO Tools
      • Domain Analysis

        Get top competitive SEO metrics like DA, top pages and more.

      • Keyword Explorer

        Find traffic-driving keywords with our 1.25 billion+ keyword index.

      • Link Explorer

        Explore over 40 trillion links for powerful backlink data.

      • Competitive Research

        Uncover valuable insights on your organic search competitors.

      • MozBar

        See top SEO metrics for free as you browse the web.

      • More Free SEO Tools

        Explore all the free SEO tools Moz has to offer.

      Access the Moz API for less
      Save on Moz Data

      Access the Moz API for less

      Hurry - ends Dec 6th!
    • Learn SEO
      • Beginner's Guide to SEO

        The #1 most popular introduction to SEO, trusted by millions.

      • SEO Learning Center

        Broaden your knowledge with SEO resources for all skill levels.

      • On-Demand Webinars

        Learn modern SEO best practices from industry experts.

      • How-To Guides

        Step-by-step guides to search success from the authority on SEO.

      • Moz Academy

        Upskill and get certified with on-demand courses & certifications.

      • SEO Q&A

        Insights & discussions from an SEO community of 500,000+.

      Save 20% on all Moz Academy courses
      Limited time offer

      Save 20% on all Moz Academy courses

      Level up your SEO
    • Blog
    • Why Moz
      • Small Business Solutions

        Uncover insights to make smarter marketing decisions in less time.

      • Agency Solutions

        Earn & keep valuable clients with unparalleled data & insights.

      • Enterprise Solutions

        Gain a competitive edge in the ever-changing world of search.

      • The Moz Story

        Moz was the first & remains the most trusted SEO company.

      • Case Studies

        Explore how Moz drives ROI with a proven track record of success.

      • New Releases

        Get the scoop on the latest and greatest from Moz.

      Explore Moz updates & save up to 40%
      Big Savings!

      Explore Moz updates & save up to 40%

      See the latest
    • Log in
      • Moz Pro
      • Moz Local
      • Moz Local Dashboard
      • Moz API
      • Moz API Dashboard
      • Moz Academy
    • Avatar
      • Moz Home
      • Notifications
      • Account & Billing
      • Manage Users
      • Community Profile
      • My Q&A
      • My Videos
      • Log Out

    The Moz Q&A Forum

    • Forum
    • Questions
    • Users
    • Ask the Community

    Welcome to the Q&A Forum

    Browse the forum for helpful insights and fresh discussions about all things SEO.

    1. Home
    2. SEO Tactics
    3. On-Page Optimization
    4. Downsides on shortening article title?

    Downsides on shortening article title?

    On-Page Optimization
    7
    10
    1096
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as question
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with question management privileges can see it.
    • RaoulWB
      RaoulWB last edited by

      Hi there,

      I'm new to Moz: great tool so far!

      I just tried the page optimization feature and see that (for instance for this article) page titles are often too long. Now it's tempting to just shorten the title straight away, but I have a memory of someone once telling me changing the title will change the URL. And changing the URL is something not appreciated by Google.

      Could someone please explain if and why this is/isn't the case? And if there are any downsides/things to consider before changing the article's title?

      Thank you in advance!

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
      • squidgame2024
        squidgame2024 last edited by

        In any case, you should only change the address and not the URL. However, if you must change the URL, you need to set up a 301 redirect from the old URL to the new one. This will inform Google that the new URL is different, and it will re-index the new URL properly without causing any issues. There might be some fluctuation in the link for up to 24 hours, but after that, everything should be fine.

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • sarahwalsh
          sarahwalsh last edited by

          Though there are no real downsides to shortening the title, as long as it accurately describes the products or services that be sold on that page. Your web designer, should therefore add a page title which really accurately describes what you are selling on that page

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • husnainofficial
            Husnain CH last edited by

            @Christy-Correll Best Answer about your query.

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • sarahwalsh
              sarahwalsh last edited by

              There and no real downsides to shortening the title of an article, as long as the title of page / blog post accurately explains what the page or blog post is about.

              We done this for a fencing business because some of the titles were to long for the meta title and description, so we had to rewrite them to make them shorter.

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • sarahwalsh
                sarahwalsh last edited by

                There are no real downsides to shortening the title of an article.

                That’s as long as the page title accurately explains what the page or blog post is about.

                We done this for a Cardiff fencing business, simply because some of the meta titles were too long for the meta title and description.

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • RaoulWB
                  RaoulWB last edited by

                  Thank you for your replies José, Christy and Salience,

                  It looks like you are right, and the ('SEF URL') is fixed: it will not change when I change the title: https://screencast.com/t/XR6lS6YdL

                  For now -changing URLs- sounds a bit too risky for me to start with yet. I'm just trying to create the best articles, contentwise.

                  Feels a bit odd that URLs are going to be different from the titles though. But I guess that's a better situation than having titles that are too long.

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • Salience_Search_Marketing
                    Salience_Search_Marketing last edited by

                    Hey,

                    Agree with the other replies but wanted to mention that changing your article title may have an adverse affect on the ranking performance of your content, so be careful and do some solid research before making a change.

                    Thanks!

                    Salience

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                    • Christy-Correll
                      Christy-Correll Staff last edited by

                      Hi  RaoulWB,

                      Welcome to the Q&A forum! As far as the search engines are concerned, the title and URL of a page are independent. However, some content management systems create the URL based on the page title, and may automatically update and redirect the URL if you update a title (depending on how the CMS is configured, etc.). Is this possibly what you are thinking of? 

                      Christy 🙂

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                      • josellamazares
                        josellamazares last edited by

                        Hello,
                        It is independent, you can change your title and not change the url. Many times to improve the CTR the SEO title is changed. Changing the url is more delicate, first you must study the risks it has for the positioning of that url. If you have received links to that url you could lose them, etc.

                        Regards

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
                        • 1 / 1
                        • First post
                          Last post

                        Got a burning SEO question?

                        Subscribe to Moz Pro to gain full access to Q&A, answer questions, and ask your own.


                        Start my free trial


                        Browse Questions

                        Explore more categories

                        • Moz Tools

                          Chat with the community about the Moz tools.

                        • SEO Tactics

                          Discuss the SEO process with fellow marketers

                        • Community

                          Discuss industry events, jobs, and news!

                        • Digital Marketing

                          Chat about tactics outside of SEO

                        • Research & Trends

                          Dive into research and trends in the search industry.

                        • Support

                          Connect on product support and feature requests.

                        • See all categories

                        Related Questions

                        • Buffalo-Mobile

                          Homepage Title Tag - Key phrases spread too thin? Advice please

                          Hi there.  Im newish to SEO and first time poster here (so apologies if I've posted in the incorrect place), and I'm hoping for some advice on my homepage title tag.  Its is: "Asbestos Surveys & Removal, Kent & Sussex - MyBusinessName Asbestos Surveyors UK" Im hoping to target keyphrases "Asbestos Surveys Kent", "Asbestos Surveys Sussex", "Asbestos Removal Kent", "Asbestos Removal Sussex", "Asbestos Surveyors UK". My question is, have I attempted to jam too much in? By breaking the location bits away from "Asbestos Surveys", will it rank poorly for "Asbestos Surveys Kent"?  Should I only target "Surveys" OR "Removal". Many thanks in advance.

                          On-Page Optimization | | Buffalo-Mobile
                          0
                        • jorisbrabants

                          Update old article or publish new content and redirect old post?

                          Hi all, I'm targetting a keyword and we used to rank quite good for it. Last couple of months traffic of that keyword (and variations) is going down a bit. I wrote an extensive new post on the same topic, much more in dept and from 600 to 1800 words covering the same topic. Is it better to update the old article and mention that it's updated recently, or publish a new post and redirect the old post to the new post?

                          On-Page Optimization | | jorisbrabants
                          0
                        • Eurasmus.com

                          Duplicated page titles

                          Dear friends, We have a problem which occurs on our page with duplicated page titles. Landlords are posting rooms on our page and most of them are giving the same name to the rooms and after that, we are getting more and more duplicated page titles. We are applying random whit this title tag: Accommodation for students in {city.name}: {name}. English title
                          Certified student rooms in {city.name}: {name} English title
                          Erasmus room for students in {city.name} | {name} English title
                          Student room in {city.name}: {name} English title Also our title tag is sometimes to long but there is no possibility to make them shorter. I think. If anyone would have some idea be free to comment and help us. Kind regards Miško Macolić Tomičić

                          On-Page Optimization | | Eurasmus.com
                          0
                        • oomdomarketing

                          Blank Title and Description Tags

                          Hi guys. Some times web platforms that I do work on have pages that I normally do not optimize. They more often than not have blank meta titles and meta descriptions. If I put titles and descriptions on these pages, no matter how minor, would it help the site as a whole to rank better? Thanks!

                          On-Page Optimization | | oomdomarketing
                          0
                        • Joes_Ideas

                          Site Wide Title Tag Discussion

                          Do you think it's good to have an instance of your primary keyword occur on most of your site's title tags throughout your site? Or do you think having the keyword occur in most title tags throughout the site will dilute the ranking ability for the home page? I haven't read much about this in "best practices" for title tags. hmmmm...

                          On-Page Optimization | | Joes_Ideas
                          0
                        • sbrault74

                          Why Does Google Keep Changing My Page Titles?

                          I know Google has been doing this for quite some time but how do you "control" what Google will display as your page name? Lots of my pages come up with a title like "[searched keyword] - [website name]" in the search results. I usually a huge drop in CTR when this happens. On the other hand, there are some pages which have kept their title intact in the search results. So what gives? How come one page's title is changed and the other is not?

                          On-Page Optimization | | sbrault74
                          0
                        • HockSports

                          Which is better, have our location in the title or have a title that is 66 characters?

                          I was told by an SEO company that I need to put our name and location in every page title, however, an seomoz.org campaign gave me warnings for having a page title that is too long.  Which is better, have our location in the title or have a title that is 66 characters? We have both a physical and online store, so it would still be nice to direct foot traffic to our physical store.

                          On-Page Optimization | | HockSports
                          0
                        • RiceMedia

                          Are duplicate titles an issue for pages I don't need ranking for?

                          A client has a load of duplicate page titles on their site.  However, to cut a long story short, most of these pages are pointless and therefore we don't need ranking for them. As such, I'm not concerned whether any of the pages with duplicate content on them are ranked or not..... unless having duplicate page titles / content on these pages could mean that other pages on the site, like the homepage, don't rank as high because of this. Do I need to worry about duplicate titles on these pages, or can I ignore duplicate content on pages that I don't want to be ranked? Hope that makes sense!

                          On-Page Optimization | | RiceMedia
                          0
                        Moz logo
                        • Contact
                        • Community
                        • Free Trial
                        • Terms & Privacy
                        • Accessibility
                        • Jobs
                        • Help
                        • What's New
                        • News & Press
                        • MozCon
                        © 2021 - 2024 SEOMoz, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. All rights reserved. Moz is a registered trademark of SEOMoz, Inc.

                        Looks like your connection to Moz was lost, please wait while we try to reconnect.